again: i don't see islam as something foreign. it's fundamentally greek, so it's fundamentally western, unlike systems that derive from east of the indus. my concept of "the west" is greek, not christian, so it includes russia and iran and north africa and arabia, as well as some parts of black africa that ended up greek in the pre-columbus period (like ethiopia).

i'm not afraid of being invaded by a foreign culture. that's not what islam is.

what i'm afraid of is reverting to the past - just as i would be by the rise of an evangelical movement.

i just see them as a new christian denomination, a new type of evangelicalism.

and, i'm fully aware that the christians & muslims will eventually unite and gang up on secularism.