i've been pretty clear that i actually vaguely support treating religious conviction like a mental illness. i don't believe in the premise that "religious freedom" is some kind of human right - it's a contradiction in terms.

so, if i basically agree that the uighurs are batshit insane, what's the best way forward? the answer is that i'm not fundamentally opposed to what china is doing in principle, it's more in the details. how do you separate the muslim from the uighur in a way that is fundamentally just and fair?

when you see articles about china at sites like the atlantic, you need to correct for a level of bias, immediately. you expect a level of intense exaggeration in the media around "human rights abuses" in china, but you also expect that there's a kernel of truth underlying them. the truth is that nobody really knows what they're doing, and these kinds of articles should be taken with a grain of salt.

but, i don't think it's impossible to secularize these groups in a way that is ultimately beneficial to them and, in the end, has them freely choosing to move past their religion as backwards. in fact, i'd support it - and would argue it's the only approach with any chance of success.

if the chinese come in here with giant sticks, it's just not going to work, in the end.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/08/china-pathologizing-uighur-muslims-mental-illness/568525/