if i convince myself that this guy wanted to drill over a stain, i'm running away, again.
that's dentist number three, and they all did the same thing - try to talk me into drilling immediately.
Saturday, November 28, 2020
brushing once with the dish soap actually seems to have made a difference very quickly, and it's sort of what i thought - some of the build-up came off (i'm not joking, it really did) and some of the rest of it got scrapy very quick.
it's impossible for me to tell with my eye, as an untrained person, if it's a cavity or a stain. i need to be clear about that. i don't know.
but, much of it no longer looks like a cavity to me at all, once i softened up the plaque with the dish soap.
i'm not exactly recommending this. i don't actually know what the long term consequences are. but, ammonia is the historical toothpaste - it's what we used before we used toothpaste. and, it's easy to see why, actually trying it.
before i start thinking about using toothpaste as a condiment, let's really figure this out more rigorously.
guava - 30*.34/10000 = 0.00102 mg = 1000*(0.00102) µg = 1.02 µg
banana - 2.6
strawberry - 4.4
avocado - 10.5
kiwi - trace, but no data
soy milk - 1000*(6*1.33/10000) = .798 µg
ice cream - trace, bot no data
yogurt - fluoride would kill the bacterial culture
yeast - fluoride kills yeast, too
vector - 1000*(15*.19/10000) = .285 µg
all bran - 1000*(45*.29/10000) = 1.305 µg
flax - trace
algal oil - potentially relatively substantive, but not clear from any data
water: 1000*.1*(1.774 + .7) = 247.4 µg <----two cups of water + coffee
that's .2684 mg, so far.
4*.3 = 1.2 mg
i still need a milligram, roughly.
an equivalent amount of black tea would have:
3*1000*(256*3/10000) = 230.4 µg, but that may be exaggerated by fluoridated water. it doesn't really help, and it's the most fluoridated thing in the database.
if i get the fancy 1.1% naf prevident, i'd need x*.011 = 1 <---> x = 1/.011 ~ 90 mg. that's only 1% of the tube. so, if it costs $10, it's only $0.1/day. and, that's hardly dangerous.
i may have to get a better scale.
so, i'm actually committing to that if i can find it.
do i think i can scrounge up that much fluoride in the other bowls without needing to resort to toothpaste? i don't know.....
so, it's .08 mg/L in st. catharines, which is up the lake from niagara falls, on the canadian side. that's the same water system.
i found an old document documenting .1 ppm in the detroit river near wyandotte. that's quite a bit higher, at about 1 mg/L - which would be acceptable as fluoridated drinking water. but, this is downstream from where we take the water, and south of zug island, which is the remaining industrial heart of detroit.
but, those are my likely bounds - between .08 and 1 mg/L.
if it's .08, i'd need to drink 40+ litres of water a day to get to the lower end of the rdi, at 3 mg, if water is my only source.
if it's at .3, i'd need to get to 10 L to get to 3 mg - and drinking 5 L, which is on the extreme end of what's actually plausible, would get me to 1.5 mg, which is almost 40%.
i could conceivably get into the habit of downing a big gulp of water before and after meals, which would be about 1.774 L. at .3 mg/L, that's .5322 mg - or 13.3% of the rdi. thrice that is nearly 40%. two cups of coffee is another 1.4 L of water, which is another 10%. it would be hard to drink more water than that, consistently, every day.
at .08 mg/L, it's unfortunately only .08*(3*1.774 + 1.4)/4 = 13%
at .4 mg/L, it's .4*(3*1.774 + 1.4)/4 = 67%
it was previously at .6 mg/L, and i'd then be at .6*(3*1.774 + 1.4)/4 = 100%, on the nose.
i can also get some water from the pasta cooking process.
so, we see what the bounds i have to actually work with actually are.
as far as i know, we get our water from the detroit river, not from ground water.
but, it would suggest that it's probably not that deficient and the necessary supplementation is perhaps minimal.
i've noticed my mouth gets weird when i drink less water, and assumed i was dehydrated. maybe there's something more to it than that - maybe if i drink a lot of water, i'm getting to something like 40%.
fish is relatively high in fluorine, but it turns out that seaweed and algae is very high in fluorine, high enough that this might solve my problem.
this study presents the fluoride content of spirulina as a danger, but if the concentration is 60 mg/kg, and i need 4 mg, i only need 1000/(60/4) = 67 g of the stuff. and, that is almost the same concentration as toothpaste, in an actual food source. if i decide i want to get 1.5 in each bowl, 1000/(60/1.5) = 25 g. that's the size of a large strawberry. that's workable..
that means that the algal oil should have some fluoride in it, alhough it might be a struggle to have it measured
so, i'm starting to work this out.
i can probably get 20-30% from the water, at least. if i'm lucky, i can get another 20-30% from the algal oil and maybe another 20-30% from spirulina or chlorella. and, then i can get extra bits from spices & from anchovies.
i just need to add it up.
yeah.
so, this dish soap has three surfactants. my toothpaste uses cocamidopropyl betaine and sodium methyl cocoyl taurate, both of which are derived from coconut oil. but, i wonder if it's enough, or if it might be interacting with the other stuff.
if i give myself a careful wash with the ammonia mixtures in the dish soap, i'm doing just about as much as i can to get rid of anything with a cell membrane. there's a lot of idiots out there that write this off as "foaminess", but this is the actual soap, it's what actually kills the actual bacteria.
it smells good, too.
so, how should i do this?
- brush with soft brush & ammonia-based surfactant dish soap before eating. it's going to be passion fruit palmolive, at least to start. this is strictly anti-bacterial.
- brush with medium brush & stannnous fluoride mix [i'm going to look for the sensodyne, who are also introducing a stannuous fluoride mix. this is brand new.]. i'm looking for the greater fluoride uptake.
- eat
- brush with soft brush & novamin mix. the novamin does work, it's just that it does a very restricted thing, namely patch up very small holes.
.....& i need to find some way to access sodium fluoride pills, as well.
i think that's the extent of what i'm going to try, for now.
they do make sodium fluoride pills, but it seems like i'm going to need to get a prescription to get access to them.
fuck.
see, this is why people don't trust dentists - they take the fluoride out of the water, then make it impossible to buy supplements. it sure seems like a giant scam, to try to force you to go to a "professional" and shell out for it.
maybe it's just capitalism, granted. but, i actually think you'd be forgiven for deducing there's something nefarious going on, and i'm not convinced there isn't, myself.
i want to be clear about what i'm thinking.
if you consume substantial amounts of fluoride, your body is going to deposit it in your skeletal system. it's not going to get excreted through your kidneys, and it's not going to just disappear. it's really going to end up in your teeth.
Approximately 80% or more of orally ingested fluoride is absorbed in the gastrointestinal tract [1]. In adults, about 50% of absorbed fluoride is retained, and bones and teeth store about 99% of fluoride in the body [1,3]. The other 50% is excreted in urine [1]. In young children, up to 80% of absorbed fluoride is retained because more is taken up by bones and teeth than in adults [1].
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Fluoride-HealthProfessional/
so, what happens if you have a cavity and you ingest a lot of fluoride? this is the part that doesn't make sense to me - supposedly, you deposit the fluoride in your teeth unless you have a cavity? but, then what happens to it if you do?
it can't just disappear.
if i'm convinced that i'm not consuming enough fluoride and that's what the problem is, i am sort of skeptical that i can't fix it by taking....not high but higher doses of fluoride. what else is going to happen to this fluoride?
i get tons of calcium, tons of phosphorus, tons of just about everything else. fluoride is the singular hole in the diet that needs to be plugged.
now, you might say something like the remineralization will be unnatural, but i'd rather have an unnatural remineralization than a mercury amalgam, or a plastic resin. that's a better choice, even if it's a little discoloured.
i am fully aware that this is not the currently accepted view, but i'm willing to take a chance on it and see what happens, because what i've been told my whole life doesn't make any sense to me.
if your body doesn't deposit these minerals, what does it do with them?
the most absorbable form seems to be hydrogen fluoride, but i don't want to give myself ulcers to try to save my teeth. that would give you a nasty stomach ache if you took too much....
i need the sodium salt, for consumption - i don't want to eat a lot of tin.
i would take a supplement of this if i could find it.
what if i shelled out and bought 5 g of calcium fluoride and put a pinch of it in a glass of water every day?
it's going to cost me upfront, but it works out to about $0.10/day.
i'd need to get a more precise scale, as well.
i need to be clear - this is dangerous. i might kill myself doing it. but, your body needs fluoride and i'm just not getting it...my options are very restricted....
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