so, things are back to normal for now, meaning i can get back to my daily readings instead of backing up files and scouring the internet looking for desperate ways to try to fix broken hardware.
this is a pointless read, except as background for paine or burke or wollstonecraft, which is what i'm about to get back to, and i have to say that i'm not really getting the relevance there, either. maybe it will present itself. for now, it's just weird and anachronistic...
there's actually a worthwhile point in here somewhere....
this text is a transcription of a speech that price gave to a
revolutionary society. however, it is known to history as being an easy
target that edmund burke keyed in on in his reflections on the revolution in france.
subsequently, both thomas paine and mary wollstonecraft came to price's
defence. while it is unlikely that i will side with burke in the more
general argument (i haven't read that text yet), i am far too removed
from the text to react in a way that is in any way comparable to the
existing defences of it. rather, my initial reaction was actually very
dismissive. not only is there no place for nationalism in my
understanding of liberalism, but my very idea of freedom is defined
practically in direct opposition to the idea of defining one's self in
terms of ethnic identity. if we do not have the freedom to reject the
mental slavery of being defined by a national identity and simply be
human beings, we do not have any freedom at all! yet, a closer reading
has led me to conclude that price is speaking somewhat cryptically to
get around the restrictions that existed on his freedom to speak as he
truly wished to. i would go so far as to argue that this is the only way
to read the speech that makes any sense at all. while such a reading
may gloss over a few particularly egregious aspects of his concept of
nationalism, it doesn't shield him of deeper and more worthwhile
criticism.
- begins by noting that "...like all other passions, it
(nationalism) requires regulation and direction.". getting this across
is the real purpose of the speech.
- price then defines nationalism. it is not a geographic concept,
but a communitarian one. a russian-born person living in england should
consequently identify as english, rather than russian. so, this is a
melting pot concept of identity that sees the individual's identity as
transferable between communities and as an expression of the community
one lives in, rather than existing uniquely within the individual and
carried along with it. sort of fascist; not very liberal.
- "it is proper to observe" that nationalism is not the same thing
as supremacism or xenophobia. collectivists of a certain variety may
assert this on principle, but they have a hard time arguing against it's
cognitive dissonance. nationalism is inherently exclusive. how can it
avoid being xenophobic? and how can the xenophobic avoid being
supremacist? real leftists have no patience for nationalism. price's
attempts to argue for nationalism and against xenophobia are
consequently difficult to take seriously, as they're not really possible
to separate.
- it is also proper to observe that nationalism is not the same
thing as competition. again, this looks nice on paper but is simply
incoherent. as nationalism is exclusive, it categorizes people into
separate groups that can only ever develop hostilities and become
antagonistic, which leads to division and competition. price even seems
to realize this. he runs through a list of historical examples of
cultures that have seen themselves as superior, condemning each in turn.
- so, price's ideal of nationalism is hereby defined for the rest
of the text as an impossible mindset that can never exist anywhere
amongst any people, and never has. his comment? Let us learn by such reflexions to correct and purify this passion, and to make it a just and rational principle of action. yes, let us rationalize the irrational...
as nonsensical as all of this may seem, it is easy to read between
the lines to deduce that price's preferred brand of nationalism is
actually the rejection of nationalism. this has historically been a
difficult thing to articulate in any kind of public forum without
dealing with serious consequences. if we are to recognize the
contradiction in his statements, the next step is to determine which
side of the contradiction is presented as more important, and it is
without a doubt the side that minimizes nationalism in favour of
universalism. that is to say that price has no option but to argue
against nationalism by redefining it as it's antithesis, or face the
king's wrath as well as, perhaps, the wrath of his fellow citizens; if
we reject xenophobia and competition then we also reject nationalism,
regardless of further incoherent rhetoric on the topic, however
necessary it may have been.
- he then moves on by noting that jesus did not mention nationalism. well, of course not. he was created to unify the empire. The
design of this parable was to shew to a Jew, that even a Samaritan, and
consequently all men of all nations and religions, were included in the
precept, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. to price,
nationalism ought to be nothing more than the golden rule applied to
one's immediate surroundings, which is not nationalism at all but the
negation of it.
- in somewhat of a turn towards buddhism, he suggests three
blessings of human nature (truth, virtue, liberty) and relates each of
them to what he proposes as properly nationalist behaviour, largely by
contrasting them against their opposites (barbarism, atheism, slavery).
this is a weird section of the text that presents crude and early
versions of what would today be called liberal imperialism (teach the
savages freedom and they will be free kind of stuff) and that i'm going
to mostly avoid, except to stress the point that the importance of the
separation of church and state cannot be overstated. also: if we show
them that they are men, will they not act like devo....?
if price is coyly speaking out against nationalism, what is his
goal? i can think of two motives. the first is to assert the church as
more powerful than the state, which is consistent with the underlying
message in his 1776 speech.
might he have been turning on those who would assert a separation of
church and state by coyly attacking the widespread feelings of secular
nationalism and replacing them with a manipulated christian
universalism? the second is somewhat contradictory to this, in that he
may have been reacting against british nationalistic rhetoric in the
context of the events that came out of the revolution, perhaps even out
of self-preservation. these are merely speculations; i do not know
enough about the life of richard price to state anything with any kind
of force. yet, i've seen enough in these two short documents to realize
that these are propaganda pieces by somebody with a political agenda and
that they can't be taken entirely at face value.
- he finishes by exploring various examples of what he would
consider proper nationalism (unsurprisingly, these all reduce to being
good, obedient citizens, and contain several warnings against "anarchy")
and discussing some historical aspects of the "glorious" english
"revolution" of 1689. this is again a touchy subject, as the official
position from the english authorities at the time was that england
already had a liberalizing revolution (a point that is now historically
accepted, but that many liberals of the period were not willing to fully
concede or in some cases concede at all, especially in the context of
the revolution in america). whether out of genuine belief or fear of
consequence, price takes the statist line, here. beyond noting that,
this ending section is not particularly interesting to me.
so, the point that is hidden in here beneath the jingoistic
language is actually that nationalism has many pitfalls that should be
avoided. our opinions may part on virtually every other aspect of the
two short tracts i've read by him, but i can agree with dr. price on
that basic point.
full text:
http://oll.libertyfund.org/simple.php?id=368
http://dghjdfsghkrdghdgja.appspot.com/categories/books/congress/DA/452.P7/index.html
Sunday, May 4, 2014
a bunch of populist right-wing talking points, pompous rhetoric and targeted demographic-driven empty provinces. this is contributing to the death of the ndp, but isn't likely to rejuvenate the base.
as a basic starting point, where is a promise to *reverse* the privatization of ontario hydro? what's that? taboo? actually, run a poll, andrea. you'd be surprised. oh, you meant taboo on bay street. got it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqP4bucvh-k
the last time ontario elected the ndp, it got the most right-wing government it'd seen in decades as rae jumped all over himself trying to convince the business community that he wasn't a communist plant.
i'd expect the same from horwath, who is a highly opportunistic career politician that is seeking power first and foremost.
so, i'll stick with the liberals for now, until a real alternative presents itself.
as a basic starting point, where is a promise to *reverse* the privatization of ontario hydro? what's that? taboo? actually, run a poll, andrea. you'd be surprised. oh, you meant taboo on bay street. got it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqP4bucvh-k
the last time ontario elected the ndp, it got the most right-wing government it'd seen in decades as rae jumped all over himself trying to convince the business community that he wasn't a communist plant.
i'd expect the same from horwath, who is a highly opportunistic career politician that is seeking power first and foremost.
so, i'll stick with the liberals for now, until a real alternative presents itself.
at
21:55
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Windsor, ON, Canada
see, this is what i was worried about.
it's 10 out, and 5:00 am, and i can feel the air coming down. which must be because the heat is on high two floors up, to fight the air on the main level.
i can't deal with that. i have to get the heat up. there's essentially no tenant that could deal with that. and it's going to squeeze him out, but it's his own fault.
it's 10 out, and 5:00 am, and i can feel the air coming down. which must be because the heat is on high two floors up, to fight the air on the main level.
i can't deal with that. i have to get the heat up. there's essentially no tenant that could deal with that. and it's going to squeeze him out, but it's his own fault.
at
05:05
Location:
Windsor, ON, Canada
do sanctions have environmental benefits, in that they encourage local production?
...well, real sanctions, anyways. not these paper sanctions that reduce to food fights at the country club.
...well, real sanctions, anyways. not these paper sanctions that reduce to food fights at the country club.
at
00:54
Location:
Windsor, ON, Canada
all the major empires support and aid fascist groups to carry out destabilization tactics within competing empires. it's abundantly clear at this point that moscow wants to be sugar daddy to the west's far right "libertarian" movements as they become increasingly militant.
at
00:33
Location:
Windsor, ON, Canada
i grasp the value of broadcasting in multiple languages, but the actual effect of this is to cut the video off from 90% of your audience. how about captions in english (or multiple languages, resources willing)?
at
00:13
Location:
Windsor, ON, Canada
they really need to take this woman off the air, or at least replace her with an ewok. i applaud wichita fall's efforts to reduce dumping. and i wouldn't even expect a report this absurdly stupid to come out of my ruling conservative party.
at
00:01
Location:
Windsor, ON, Canada
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