Wednesday, October 21, 2020

it turns out i can get some l-carnitine from milk, so i should quickly update this.

l-carnitine is one of those things you need, but need to be careful with. your body will synthesize it, unless it can't, so it's probably more advisable to get enough lysine; the thing is, though, that most sources of lysine also contain carnitine, so trying to avoid carnitine by eating lysine just gets you running around in circles, unless you eat a whole lot of beans.

but, as mentioned previously, sometimes it's good to know how much you're getting of something to ensure you're not getting too much.

this is from the lpi:
The bioavailability of L-carnitine from food can vary depending on dietary composition. For instance, one study reported that bioavailability of L-carnitine in individuals adapted to low-carnitine diets (i.e., vegetarians) was higher (66%-86%) than in those adapted to high-carnitine diets (i.e., regular red meat eaters; 54%-72%) (10). The remainder is degraded by colonic bacteria.

this study backs up the point:
Dietary L-carnitine is absorbed by active and passive transfer across enterocyte membranes. Bioavailability of dietary L-carnitine is 54-87% and is dependent on the amount of L-carnitine in the meal. Absorption of L-carnitine dietary supplements (0.5-6 g) is primarily passive; bioavailability is 14-18% of dose. Unabsorbed L-carnitine is mostly degraded by microorganisms in the large intestine. 

so, you may have heard that carnitine is basically death, but if you look into it more closely what you learn is that the carnitine is only converted to tmao in the gut, and this should only happen if you consume carnitine-containing foods in excess, or if you consume carnitine in the form of supplements. if you consume small amounts of carnitine in a mostly vegetarian diet, you should absorb most of it and avoid the conversion to tmao, which is what was identified as the potential cause of cardio-vascular issues. 

the other thing that should be pointed out is that the initial studies linking carnitine to heart disease were all performed in smokers, so you again have these skewed data sources. it's not the smoking that kills, kids - it's the red meat! well, this time, they at least picked a co-villain. when they tried to do more rigorous studies isolating tmao as a risk factor, they failed to demonstrate the connection. guess it was the smoking, after all, huh?

likewise, you would expect absorption of betaine & choline to be quite high given that your body metabolizes almost of it, and this bacterial gut reaction to be of minimal concern, unless you are over-eating - in which case you're going to have problems, regardless. i've said this over and over: if you have heart issues due to obesity, you should concern yourself less with what you eat and more about how much you eat.

that said, there's other reasons to avoid red meat, and i'm pretty clear about arguing against consuming more meat than is absolutely necessary. one of the reasons i'm doing this is to figure out if i really need salami or not, and i think it's pretty clear, now, that i don't. 

the other reason that i'd want to avoid carnitine is that it has an androgenic effect, but all humans need it and create it in small doses.

so, how much of this should i get to ensure i'm meeting requirements without relying on lysine, and that i'm not going overboard and converting it to tmao, whether that's bad for me or not?

The normal rate of L-carnitine biosynthesis in humans ranges from 0.16 to 0.48 mg/kg of body weight/day (4). Thus, a 70 kg (154 1b) person would synthesize between 11 and 34 mg of carnitine per day. This rate of synthesis, combined with efficient (95%) L-carnitine reabsorption by the kidneys, is sufficient to prevent deficiency in generally healthy people, including strict vegetarians (132).

i'm going to place my weight between 120 and 140 pounds, which is 55-65 kg.

55*.16 = 8.8 mg
65*.48 = 31.2 mg

x*.87 = 8.8 <--->x = 8.8/.87 = 10.1149425287 ---> 10 mg
x*.87 = 31.2 <---> x = 31.2/.87 = 35.8620689655----> 36 mg

(36 + 10)/2 = 23 mg.

so, i've set the rdi at 23 mg and the upper limit at 36 mg. that would be enough to completely replace my carnitine every day, almost certainly.

i will note that i will get lysine from eggs, even as i don't get carnitine from it.

and, how often should i consume it?

carnitine seems to be unusually conserved:
The kidneys efficiently conserve carnitine, so even carnitine-poor diets have little impact on the body’s total carnitine content [1,5]. Rather than being metabolized, excess carnitine is excreted in the urine as needed via the kidneys to maintain stable blood concentrations.

so, i'm going to do this a little differently.

b20 (carnitine): at least 23 mg per day total, with no more than 36 mg per day.

36/23 = 1.5652173913----> 157%

regarding sources for plants, i'm partially relying on the following website, which claims it is sourcing from an article i'd have to access via jstor or something:

there is another source here:

and, these sources are vague and less useful:

this also exists for the yogurt, although it provides a surprising result for avocado that i'm not taking seriously:

that said, this source backs up the previous on avocado, but the method is suspect (it's an extract):

i would normally take the lower source, but i'm going to take the higher source this time because i want to minimize the amount, mostly. the exception is the avocado numbers, and i'm sticking with what i'm seeing in the more mainstream data - the nih, the lpi & that springer link. if you're hoping it's higher, check it out yourself and let me know.

here's the data...

nectarine - 1.61*1.29 = 2.0769 <----data is for peaches  [b]
banana .2*1.36 = 0.272 mg [a]
strawberry - ?, but ~0.
avocado - 1.25*1.5 = 1.875mg [b]
kiwi - ?, but ~0
soy milk - ?, but ~0. note that there are soy products on the market that present added carnitine as a selling point, so it seems like there's very little in the bean, itself.
ice cream - 1.1*(2/3)*(3*2)  = 4.4 mg.  [c]

1 cup of ice cream is 150 grams
2/3 of 150 grams is 100 grams
so, there's 2/3*(3*2) = 4 mg in 100 grams, and
1.1*4 = 4.4 mg in 110 g

yeast - .03*(1.6 + 3.29)/2 = 0.07335 mg [b] <---- average amount
cereal - .55*1.5 = .825 mg [b]

according to (b), rice is 1.77 and wheat is around 1.0. so, i'm going to use 1.5.

flax seed - ?, but ~0 mg
=======
(2.0769 + .272 + 1.87 + 4.4 + .07335 + .825) = 9.51725
9.51725/23 = 0.41379347826 ---> 41%

so, that's a little on the high side, but about right.

red peppers - ?, ~0 
pasta - .55*(1.22+.35)/2 = 0.43175 mg <--- average of wheat seeds [b]
cheese - 2  mg [c]
carrots - .3*1.1 = .33 mg [a]
hemp - ?, but ~0  mg
yogurt - 12.2 ish [e]
yeast - .03*(1.6 + 3.29)/2 = 0.07335 mg [b] <---- average amount
==================
.43175 + 2 + .33 + 12.2 + .07335 = 15.0351

for now, 15.0351/23 = 0.6537 ---> 65%

eggs .4*1.4 =  0.56 mg [b]
cheese  - 1 mg [c]
margarine - 1.05*.1 = .105  <---- margarine source not specified. some small amount, perhaps less, is certain for canola oil margarine. [b]
bread - .81*.37 = .2997 [b]
yeast = .02*(1.6 + 3.29)/2 = 0.0489 mg [b]
===================
.56 + 1 + .105 + .2997 + .0489 = 2.0136

citrus juice may have as much as 2 g/100 ml. so, 200 ml may be up to 4 g. 4/23 = 17%. i may also bring the salami back in, although this calculation is, frankly, a reason not to.

for now, 2.0136/23 = 0.08754782608 ----> 8.5%

coffee: 0
soy: 0

overall: 9.51725 + 15.0351 + 2.0136 = 26.56595 mg, which is 26.56595/23 = 1.15504130435 --->116%.

so, the idea that you can't get dietary carnitine on a vegetarian diet - albeit an ovolacto one, and it's mostly the lacto here that's contributing - would appear to be a myth, given that your requirements ought to be set quite low.

i would consider this a healthy range to ensure i am meeting minimal requirements and wouldn't want to get much higher than that, from what i've learned about it over the last few hours. note that i've skipped a number of components due to a lack of data and it could very well get me over 120% if i figured them out. a little bit of salami is going to put me over that 157% limit.

i'm moving to c next, and it should be quick.

disclaimer:
i've gone to town with a few things - i'm not making up vitamins but rather filling things in. i mean, there's all these "missing vitamin names". what were they, exactly? it also gives me an excuse to work in a few things like choline that are hard to otherwise define as they are essential in some amount but not technically vitamins.

note that these numbers are scavenged and should be interpreted approximately. that's partly why i'm aiming to overshoot on most of it.

fruit bowl
(12:00)
pasta salad bowl
(20:00)
fried eggs
(4:00)
coffee
nec
tar
ine

1
129
g
ban
ana

1
136
g
str
awb
err
ies

5-6
150
g
avo
cdo

2*
75
g
kiwi
1
75
g
van
soy
milk

250
ml
che
rry
ice
crm

200
ml
nut
yst

1
med
tsp
3
g
fort
crl

55
g
grd
flax
seed

1
tbsp
7
g
sum red
pep
per
1
200
g
dur
um
wht
fet
55
g
+
h20
med
chd
chs
60
g
car
rot
1
110
g
hull
hemp
seed
1
tbsp
10 g
yog
urt
nut
yst
1
med
tsp
3
g
sum frd
egg
2*
70
g
med
chd
chs
30
g
marg
2
tsp
10
g
whl
wht
brd
w/
grm
+
flax
1 s
37
g
nut
yst
1
sml
tsp
2
g
jce
typ
grp
frt
250
ml
sum brw
cof
fee
700
ml
chc
soy
mlk
100
ml
sum total
raison
d'etre
b5,8
b16
b20
b5
b16
b5
b16
c
b3,4
b5,7
b8,9
b16
b20
f1,k
b5,8
b16
c
k
a,d
b3,4
b5,7
b12
b16
a
b5
b12
b13
b16
b20
b1,2
b3,4
b5,6
b7,9
b12
b16
a,e
b3,5
b7,9
b16
o-3

b3,4
b9
c
b3,9 a
b12
b13
b20
a
b3,9
b3
o-3
b5
b12
b13
b16
b20
b1,2
b3,4
b6,9
b12

a
b2,7
b12
b16
a
b12
b13
b20
d
o-3 b2,7
b12
c
caf
fei
ne

a
(fat sol)
(900 μg rae)
21.9
μg
4.08
μg
1.5
μg
10.5
μg
3
μg
10
%
13
%
0 15
%
0 42.5
r:38
c:4.5
314
μg
~
1.15
μg
30
%
918.5
μg
0 - 0 167
r:30
c:137
r:29
%
c:6.9
μg
15
%
10
%
0 0 - 55
r:54
c:1
0 4
%

4
r:4
c:0
268.5
r:126
c:142.5
b1
thiamin
(1.2 mg)
.044
mg
.042
mg
.036
mg
0.1
mg
.02025
mg
8
%
.0528
mg
~
155
%
20
%
.115
mg
217
u:34
.108
mg
~
46
%
.0174
mg
.0726
mg
.1275
mg
- ~
155
%
228
u:27
0.06
mg
.0087
mg
0 10.5
%
~
103
%
- 119
u: 5.5
0.1
mg
3
%
11
u:8
575
b2 [g, j]
riboflavin
(1.3 mg)
.035
mg
.099
mg
.033
mg
.195
mg
.01875
mg
25
%
.253
mg
~
144
%
24
%
.011
mg
242.5
u:49.5
.17
mg
~
22.5
%
.2568
mg
.0638
mg
.0285
mg
- ~
144
%
206.5
u:40
.684
mg
.1284
mg
0 3
%
~
96
%
- 161.5
u:62.5
.54
mg
10
%
51.5
u:41.5
662
b3
niacin
(16 mg)
1.45
mg
.904
mg
.579
mg
2.61
mg
.25575
mg
10
%
.1276
mg
~
65
%
36
%
.216
mg
149
n:38
f:111
1.958
mg
~
36
%
.0354
mg
1.0813
mg
0.92
mg
- ~
65
%
126
n:25
f:101
.114
mg
.0177
mg
0 6.5
%
~
43
%
- 50.5
n:1
f:49.5
1.36
mg
4
%
12.5
n:8.5
f:4
338
n:72.5
f:265
.5
b4*
adenine
(75 mg)
? 1.632
mg
0.75
mg
15.9
mg
~
.339
mg
19.25
mg
.9735
mg
49.38
mg
? ? 117.5 31.8
mg
2.2
mg
4.92
mg
0.77
mg
? - 49.38
mg
119 2.24
mg
2.46
mg
0 4.514
mg
32.92
mg
- 56
? 7.7
mg
10 302.5
b5
pantothenic
acid
(5 mg)
.239
mg
.454
mg
.1875
mg
2.08
mg
.13725
mg
15
%
.6391
mg
2.25
%
19
%
.069
mg
112
u:76
.634
mg
.23705
mg
.246
mg
.3003
mg
.056
mg
2.25
%
31
u:29
2.292
mg
0.123
mg
0 5
%
1.5
%
- 54.5
u:48
1.808
mg
6
%
42
u:36
239.5
b6
pyridoxine
(1.7 mg)
.032
mg
.499
mg
.0705
mg
.386
mg
.04725
mg
6
%
.0528
mg
~
133
%
25
%
.033
mg
230
u:66
.582
mg
.0781
mg
.0396
mg
.1518
mg
.06
mg

~
133
%
186.5
u:53.5
.255
mg
.0198
mg
0 3.5
%
~
88
%
- 107.5
u:16
~
0
2
%
2 526
b7 [h]
biotin
(35 μg)
? ~
3.212
μg
~
1.646
μg
5.4
μg
? ~
10.069
μg
2.86
μg
45
%
86
%
2.52
μg
204
u:73
6.6
μg
.22
μg
1.038
μg
5.5
μg
2.73
μg
- 45
%
91
u:46
~
58.33

μg
.519
μg
4.5474
μg
3
%
30
%
- 214
u:181
0 ~
11
%
11

520
b8*
inositol

(myo
or
lipid)
(1000 mg)
152.22
mg
0
mg
19.5
mg
69
mg
102
mg
20.09
mg
9.9
mg
14.85
mg
2.75
mg
13.65
mg
40 114
mg
~
41.23
mg
5.4
mg
13.2
mg
- 14.85
mg
19 12.6
mg
2.7
mg
~
16
mg
52.54
mg
9.9
mg
- 9 - - ~
0
68
b9
[m, b11, r]
folic acid
(400 μg dfe)
6.45
μg
27.2
μg
36
μg
122
μg
18.75
μg
n:6
f:0

%
5.5
μg

~
35.5
%
34
%
6.09
μg
131
n:61.5
f:69.5
92
μg
~
39
%
16.2
μg
20.9
μg
1.1
μg
- ~
35.5
%
107
n:32.5
f:74.5
70.5
μg
18.1
μg
0 5
%
~
23.5
%
- 48
n:24.5
f:23.5
3.5
%
2.5
%
6
n:6
f:0
292
n:124.5
f:167.5
b12 [t]
(cyano)
cobalamin
(2.4 μg) 
0 0 0 0 0 50
%
.858
μg
187.5
%
0 0 273
n:35.5
f:237.5
0 0 .66
μg
0 0 - 187.5
%
215
n:27.5
f:187.5
1.338
μg
.33
μg
0 0 125
%
- 194.5
n:69.5
f:125
0 20
%
20
n:0
f:20
702.5
n:132.5
f:570
b13*
orotic
acid
(10 mg)
- - - - - - ~
17
mg
- - - 170- - ~
37
mg
- - > - 370 - ~
18
mg
- - - - 180 - - - 720
b14*
taurine
(100 mg)
0 0 0 0 0 - 2.09
mg
0 0 - 6.5 0 0 0 0 - ~
5
mg
0 - 0 0 >0 0 0 0 - 0 >0 - -
b15*
betaine
(550 mg)
.258
mg
.136
mg
.3
mg
1.05
mg
.375
mg
2.048
mg
1.034
mg
0 ~
45.293
mg
.217
mg
9 .2
mg
103.4
mg
.42
mg
.44
mg
- - 0 19 .414
mg
.21
mg
.01
mg
~
74.522
mg
0 - 13.5 .7
mg
.8
mg
0 41.5
b16*
choline
(fat sol)
(550 mg)
8
mg
13.3
mg
8.55
mg
21.3
mg
5.85
mg
61.44
mg
28.6
mg
12.3
mg
6
mg
5.51
mg
31 11.2
mg
8.25
mg
9.9
mg
9.68
mg
- - 12.3 9 438
mg
4.95
mg
1.1
mg
9.99
mg
8.2
mg
- 84% 18.52
mg
24.576
mg
8 132
b20* [I]
l-carnitine
(23 mg)
2.0769
mg
.272
mg
? 1.875 mg ? ? 4.4
mg
.07335
mg
.825
mg
? --> ? .43175
mg
2
mg
.33
mg
? ~
12.2
mg
.07335
mg
--> .56
mg
1
mg
.105
mg
.2997
mg
.0489
mg
- --> ? ? --> 116
c
(90 mg)
6.97 mg 34 74 25 117 4 0 0 25 ~0 279 350 0 0 7 0 - 0 357 0 0 0 0 0 100+ 0 0 0 736+
d
(fat sol)
(15 μg)
- 0 0 0 0 45 0 0 6 0 51 0 0 2 0 0 - 0 2 12 1 30 0 0 - 43 0 18 18 114
e
(fat sol)
(15 mg)
.993 2 1.5 16 10 0 2 0 36 0 67.5 13 1 1 2 7 - 0 24 9 .5 20 1.5 0 31 0 0 0 122.5
f1*
linoleic
acid
omega-6
(g)
(17 mg)
- .1086 .09 2.534 .187 1.5 .300 0 1.2 .414 6.3336 .0738 .540 .3462 .0828 2.87 - 0 3.9128 3.23 .1731 1.5 .5 0 - 5.4031 ~0 .8 .8 16.45
f2*
alpha
linolenic
acid
omega-3
(g)
(1.6 mg)
- .0638 .065 .165 .0319 .2 .200 0 .2 1.597 2.5227 .041 .024 .219 .0014 .93 - 0 1.2154 .228 .1095 .5 .75 0- 1.5875 ~0 .12 .12 5.45
f1:f2
ratio
- - - - - - - - - - 2.51- - - - - 2:1 - 3.22 - - - - - - 3.40 - - - 3.02
k
(fat sol)
(138 μg)
2.84 2 1 39 38 5 0 0 - - 85 10 1 1 12 0 - 0 24 9 .5 10 .5 0 - 20 0 2 2 131
q1*
coenzyme
q10 (mg)
(30 mg)
- .272 .075 - .0375 .625 .0308 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
q2*
pyrrolo
quinoline

 quinone
(mu-g)
- 3.536 - - 2.025 .063 .2101 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
s*
salicylic
acid
(mg)
- ~0 ~1 - ~
0.375
~0 ~0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

* not really.

complete requirements

fat soluble:
- a: 120% of pre-formed + 100% of convertible rae, total daily. 30% + pre-formed per meal.
- d: 30% + per meal, 120% total
- e: 30% + per meal, 120% total
- k: 30% + per meal, should not exceed 100%/meal, >120% & <200% total

water soluble (bs & c):
- 300+% total w/ 100% for each meal
- b1 (thiamin): 125% w/ each meal
- b2 (riboflavin): 131% w/ each meal
- b3 (niacin): 125% w/ each meal, but not more than 200% in fortified sources.
- *b4 (adenine): 75 mg w/ each meal
- b5 (pantothenic acid): 110% w/ each meal
- b6 (pyridoxine complex): 118% w/ each meal
- b7 (biotin): 171% w/ each meal, with 857% total as a goal.
- *b8 (inositol): 300 mg w/each meal, 1200 mg total
- b9 (folic acid): 100% w/each meal, but not more than 400% from fortified sources, per day.
- b12(cobalamin): 250% w/each meal, including 30+% pre-formed w/each meal. 120% pre-formed per day.
- *b13 (orotic acid): 10 mg w/ each meal
- *b14 (taurine): 30 mg w/ each meal, 120 mg total
- *b15 (betaine): 165 mg w/ each meal, 660 mg total
- *b16 (choline): 30% + per meal, 120% total
- *b20 (l-carnitine): at least 23 mg per day total, with no more than 36 mg per day.

incomplete requirements legend:
>300% without meeting 100%/meal
+75<=100% each meal    [=+200%<=300% total]
+50<=75% each meal   [=+100<=200% total] 
<=50% each meal    [<100% total]

specific brands used:
- natura vanilla soy milk (light)
- chapman's black cherry ice cream
- bulk barn nutritional yeast
- vector cereal

- black diamond brand medium cheddar cheese
- selection brand pasta [metro/food basics]
- bulk barn nutritional yeast

- black diamond brand medium cheddar cheese
- irrestibles brand olive canola oil [metro/food basics]
- dempster's whole grain double flax bread
- bulk barn nutritional yeast

- natura chocolate soy milk
- no specific brand or type of coffee

diet options:

daily:

1) bran/fibre option for the fruit bowl will boost betaine a lot

 2 ) pasta salad bowl:
- yogurt is high in b5 and b8 and b12 and choline.
- beets good for betaine
- one tbsp of imitation bacon bits (isoflavones, maybe)
- lemon/lime (probably for phytonutrients) 
- garlic cloves (probably for phytonutrients)
- oregano & pepper (probably for phytonutrients)
- red clover (if locatable or foragable, for phytoestrogens)
- alfafa?
- sunflower seeds are high in b5 & high in e, with small amounts of choline but high amounts of omega-6. it doesn't really add up here, but may be better in the pasta bowl (after i work out the yogurt). b15/dmg.
- rice bran is similar to sunflower in b5, but lower in omega-6 and lower in choline. also, less e. it would be better if i find myself strictly concerned about b5, but in the pasta bowl. this seems unlikely.
- dried whey is a little lower in both b5 & higher in choline, but also has a little b12 & has almost no fat. it's almost like the missing part of the yeast. i'm having trouble finding it though and don't think the isolate available at bulk barn is comparable. it seems to be largely seen as a waste product in yogurt production. it may be broadly useful across plates.

3) eggs:
- salami (45 g) (25% b1, 12% b3, 5% b5, 11.5% b6, 0% b9, 20% b12)
- rice (100 g) (60% b1, 35% b3, 4% b5, 6% b6, 69% b9)
- soy meat () <----only choice, really

- orange juice (1 cup) (15% b1, 4% b2, 5% b3, 5% b5, 5% b6, 19% b9, 207% c, added e?)
- grapefruit juice is high in inositol
- cranberry juice (unsweetened. need added c, has e)
- tomato juice

need: 6% b1, 75% b3, 45% b4, 65% b5, 15% b6, 25% b8, 55% b9, 60% b12, 10% k

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the list of everything i need to get.

added are green

13 vitamins:
1) A
2) B1 (thiamine)
3) B2 (riboflavin)
4) B3 (niacin)
5) B5 (pantothenic acid)
6) B6 (pyridoxine)

7) B7 (biotin)
8) B9 (folic acid)
9) B12 (cyano-cobolamin)
10)  C
11) D
12) E
13) K


15 amino acids:
1) histidine
2) isoleucine
3) leucine
4) lysine
5) methionine
6) phenylalanine
7) threonine
8) tryptophan
9) valine
10) arginine
11) cysteine
12) glycine
13) glutamine
14) proline
15) tyrosine
+ measure 6 non-essential

4 fatty acids:
1) linoleic acid
2) ala
3) dha
4) epa

23 minerals:
1) calcium
2) phosphorus
3) potassium
4) sulfur
5) sodium
6) chlorine
7) magnesium
8) iron
9) zinc
10) copper
11) manganese
12) iodine
13) selenium
14) molybdenum
15) chromium
16) fluoride
17) bromine
18) cobalt
19) tin
20) vanadium
21) silicon
22) boron
23) nickel
24) lead?

carotenoids (not including pro-vitamin a)
1) lutein
2) zeaxanthin
3) lycopene
4) phytofluene
5) phytoene
6) astaxanthin
7) capsanthin
8) canthaxanthin
9) cryptoxanthin

chlorophyll:
1) chlorophyll a
2) chlorophyll b

other molecules required for proper metabolic functions:
1) choline (cannot synthesize properly)
2) coQ10

3) lipoic acid
4) glutathione precursors
5) ergothioneine  (cannot synthesize)   <-----mushrooms
6) pyrroloquinoline quinone (PQQ) (cannot synthesize)   <-----kiwis
7) queuine  (cannot synthesize)    <-----cheese [made in stomach by bacteria]

8) taurine (cannot synthesize properly) 
9) betaine 
10) creatine? (avoidance? creatine increases muscle mass (which is bad.) but also improves brain function (which is good). careful.) 

glucose:
i'm more concerned about diabetes than weight gain, so...
the glycemic index is:
running total...

fiber:
i don't need many different types, i just need some. i'm not worrying about this.

& water

also, let's measure flavonoids:

anthocyanidins:
1) pelargonidin
2) delphinidin
3) cyanidin
4) malvinidin
5) peonidin
6) petunidin
7) rosinidin

flavonols:
1) isorhamnetin
2) kaempferol
3) myricetin
4) quercetin
5) fisetin
6) kaempferide

flavones:
1) luteolin
2) apigenin
3) techtochrysin
4) baicalein (to avoid!)
5) norwogonin
6) wogonin
7) nobiletin

flavanones:
1) eriodictyol
2) hesperetin
3) naringenin
4) hesperidin
5) isosakuranetin
6) pinocembrin
7) sterubin

isoflavones:
1) daidzein
2) genistein
3) glycitein
4) biochanin A
5) formononetin

i should try to measure some further phytoestrogens:
1) matairesinol
2) secoisolariciresinol
3) pinoresinol
4) lariciresinol
5) coumestrol

& finally, let's also measure:
1) saponins
2) ursolic acid (& precursors)
3) cafestol
4) resveratrol
5) ellagic acid
6) coumarin
7) tyrosol
8) hydroxytyrosol
9) oleocanthal
10) oleuropein
11) gingerol
12) phytic acid