i'll always be a punk at heart.
and, i can relate to what they called "indie rock" in the 80s and most of the 90s. but, the indie rock culture switched over in the late 90s to something i never developed a remote interest in. i mean, it had to. everybody that was any good got bought up by the labels. "indie rock" was supposed to sound like sonic youth, but everybody that sounded like sonic youth had major record deals. so, if indie rock was to remain indie, it had no choice but to change. and, i'm not sitting around holding grudges.
it's just that what it morphed into is fucking boring - by design. i'm a serious musician, i always was. i'm not interested in music as a fashion statement, or the reduction of sound to a talking point. but, that's what "indie rock" turned into, because it had no other outlet for itself as an independent form.
of course, the independent rock sound has changed a lot in the last 20 years. what i'm describing went through it's phase of (limited) relevance and dissipated like everything else. but, the term "indie rock" was let go as a co-opted term and remains this broken idea that i don't want to go anywhere near.
i'm sorry. they're universally shitty musicians: terrible players, terrible songwriters, terrible lyricists. they sell shirts and shoes to shallow idiots, they don't create music as an artform or generate protest or really do anything useful at all. and, the people that listen to it are what you would expect: manufactured consumers for the corporate chain.
everything about the term "indie rock" has deserved nothing more than contempt for decades.
and, i'm not telling you anything i wouldn't have told you at any point over the last twenty years, if you had bothered to ask.