for some reason, i tend to get through to people better when i include a dialogue.

conservative: yay! multiculturalism is great! everybody getting along in god's great kingdom, in perfect harmony - just so long as they all know their place. let's everybody sing in harmony! smile on your brother now...

leftist: i guess it looks nice at first glance, if you have no analysis. but, on the left, we don't believe in utopias, we see the world in terms of conflict.

conservative: well, we think so long as everybody knows their place, there's no conflict, just harmony. because god. qed.

leftist: ok. but, what happens when the religious people - the muslims and the christians - start actually enforcing their beliefs on everybody else?

conservative: well, they wouldn't. because harmony.

leftist: but, clearly they would, because the world is not about harmony and unity, it's about different classes of people in conflict,

conservative: there you go, it's all about class.

leftist: struggling for primacy over each other.

conservative: nope. harmony. god.

leftist: do you have an example of your kind of society actually working? because we focus on history quite a bit, and all we see are all of these different groups in conflict.

conservative: they just need to love each other. you need to have faith.

leftist: ok, so let me get this straight, then - you're essentially proposing just taking all kinds of people that are in perpetual conflict with each other, and asking them to live peacefully together on an article of faith, and with absolutely no contingency plan whatsoever in case it completely fails?

conservative: smile on your brother, everybody let's get together...