so, i don't really care what you've read about pain - that's a waste of time, or worse, and if i was in a room with that kind of discourse going on, i'd get up and seek something more relevant and interesting to discuss, instead.

i would have nothing in common with those people, and i wouldn't want to hang out with them.

i ask you, instead - what have you read about paine? i would rather discuss that, instead.