i don't think you can have this discussion unless you separate between high budget porn and exploitative porn. when people say "porn", they immediately think of what is basically a hollywood industry and just sweep the rest of it under the rug. no, the camera isn't the defining point. but, you just can't draw a parallel between somebody with a career that is making six or seven figures out of it (and has gone through planned surgery to be more competitive...) and somebody filming themselves in a hotel because they have no other way to pay their rent. it's just a crazy discussion, unless you separate out choice from coercion - which is what the law ought to be actually about.

"they keep you drugged with religion and sex and tv"

"and you think you're so clever and classless and free"

"but you're just fucking peasants as far as i can see..."