i still don't know what happened back in february, but if i find out that somebody punched me, i'm not going to blame it on the alcohol.

that's preposterous.

this was predictable via logic: what extending last call by an hour did was push the duis forward by an hour. that is all.

that said, there's a hidden concern, here: if you extend the hours too far, you'll get drunks in rush hour.

i think 4:30 am is the right time, myself. as mentioned: not all of the bars will stay open. but, i'd rather have people drinking in public places that aren't afraid to call an ambulance than have them disperse into bushes, alleys and illegal watering holes.

4:30-5:00 is when people start looking for breakfast.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2693378/#R36

i'm glad to see that the senate is focusing it's time and resources on the pressing issues that are most important to canadians.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/senate-opposed-changes-o-canada-1.4053013

"no, he's not mentally challenged. he's just an american."

although, there's another factor in detroit to consider: whatever and whenever and wherever the bars close at, you can then walk across the street to the 7/11 and get a case.

(and drink it in the park.)

(and, yes, you should share if somebody asks, within reason.)

i understand that the doctor has spent a lot of time treating the results of late night drinking, but i suspect that he hasn't spent much time out drinking past 2:00 am, himself.

this is actually a classic example of harm reduction. if you shut the bars off at 2:00 does that stop people from drinking? of course not: they find liquor cabinets, if they haven't prepared earlier with a stash in the car, and head to after hours locations to keep drinking - some of which are actually unregulated bars. of course they exist.

the choice that the state has in front of it is whether it wants to let late night drinkers drink in the open or keep them drinking in the shadows, where it's harder to keep them out of trouble.

further, i'm sure toronto will find the same thing that detroit has found: just because the bars can stay open past two doesn't mean they actually will. the hours in detroit are 4:00 am, but there are only a few bars that stay open that late, and usually only on the weekends.

but, the idea that last call sends people home is crazy talk.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/why-this-toronto-er-doctor-is-dead-set-against-extending-last-call-1.4053845