dave
hello, I'm looking for that article that had socialists talking about how identity politics is gutting the effectiveness of their movement, do you happen to have the link still?
jessica amber murray
it's on the page. i wish i could search it. that's why i'm cataloging it. there's actually a few of them, but the search term isn't going to be "identity politics" but "intersectionality" (they're the same thing).
Thursday, January 23, 2014
a deconstruction of alcoholics anonymous
Jessica Amber Murray
i saw your AA post. i know you're going there because you're looking for help and maybe because it helped in the past. but i also know that AA is sort of a cult that preys on the weak and that their programs are not empirically confirmed. i have a bit of an axe to grind with organizations that prey on the weak while not passing basic tests of science. and i think you know that that is what AA is, too. i just want to point out that there are secular alternatives to AA. obviously, i can't comment on what kind of people they attract. but i think it's worth drawing your attention to. good luck on how you choose to approach this...
http://ffrf.org/faq/feeds/item/16468-finding-secular-alternatives-to-aa
mom
I know...I hear you...I already got some 13 stepping arse-hole that tried to add me as his friend on here. They are everywhere! ... And, I won't be adding any people from there to my friends list on here!
I just thought, I would try it out....Didn't really know for sure though, that everyone can see all...I guess everyone can though...Not much privacy at all! Although, the page does warn people of that.
I am hearing about some kind of an implant that people can have that helps with the cravings of alcohol!...Not sure it is in Canada yet...But, am going to check it out! I really do want to get out of this merry-go-round alcoholic living! I am still sober!
Jessica Amber Murray
it's because it's an "open group". facebook is kind of stupid. ....but with the dude, that's the thing. i don't know what kind of people that different groups are going to attract. but the secular groups take an empowerment approach based by empirical research rather than a cultish spirituality based approach... i've seen a few academic papers that suggest that AA is more of a problem than a solution, in the sense that it really emotionally damages people. all the deconstruction and victim blaming. they tell you it's a disease, and you're powerless to stop it, and you have to get closer to god. but that's just a cult being a cult. it's like scientology. the secular programs focus on the idea of changing lifestyles, developing (non-religious) meaning, coming to terms with things. i mean, i can't say what will work and what won't. but if you're feeling constrained or whatever by the religious aspect there are other options...
mom
I am going to apply to places(anywhere) for a part-time job...Just want something very part-time...Don't really care where it is...Just to get me out of the house for a few hours a few days a week. I felt so much better about myself with the last little job I had.
Maybe, I could be the little old lady at the McDonald's counter serving breakfast a few mornings a week! lol
Jessica Amber Murray
yeah, i think that defining purpose is hugely important. what purpose is is another question. but i think the lack of purpose is a big factor.....
mom
Yes, for sure! I don't have that much of a problem with the religious aspect of it...I mean, I used to...But, I just call it my higher power...Which, could mean, anything...Just something bigger than myself...A feeling even. I just take what I need and leave the rest...I learned to do this many, many years ago...And, it did work for me way back then....It is just a place to relate to others suffering as I am, so as not to feel so lonely at times.
I did learn to be grateful in the rooms of AA...If, I remember all the things I have to be grateful for... I have a much better day!
Jessica Amber Murray
well, ok. i just wanted you to be aware that there are other programs that take other approaches. and i guess what i'm thinking is that you've relapsed a lot of times over the years, so maybe you might want to try something else. but if you're confident, it's a better idea for me to be supportive than to question.
mom
Thanks J! I just read about that implant thing....NO, it would not work for me at all! First of all, I do have hep.C, so no good...And, not liking the sound of it all anyways.
Jessica Amber Murray
that strikes me as pseudo-science, to begin with.
i saw your AA post. i know you're going there because you're looking for help and maybe because it helped in the past. but i also know that AA is sort of a cult that preys on the weak and that their programs are not empirically confirmed. i have a bit of an axe to grind with organizations that prey on the weak while not passing basic tests of science. and i think you know that that is what AA is, too. i just want to point out that there are secular alternatives to AA. obviously, i can't comment on what kind of people they attract. but i think it's worth drawing your attention to. good luck on how you choose to approach this...
http://ffrf.org/faq/feeds/item/16468-finding-secular-alternatives-to-aa
mom
I know...I hear you...I already got some 13 stepping arse-hole that tried to add me as his friend on here. They are everywhere! ... And, I won't be adding any people from there to my friends list on here!
I just thought, I would try it out....Didn't really know for sure though, that everyone can see all...I guess everyone can though...Not much privacy at all! Although, the page does warn people of that.
I am hearing about some kind of an implant that people can have that helps with the cravings of alcohol!...Not sure it is in Canada yet...But, am going to check it out! I really do want to get out of this merry-go-round alcoholic living! I am still sober!
Jessica Amber Murray
it's because it's an "open group". facebook is kind of stupid. ....but with the dude, that's the thing. i don't know what kind of people that different groups are going to attract. but the secular groups take an empowerment approach based by empirical research rather than a cultish spirituality based approach... i've seen a few academic papers that suggest that AA is more of a problem than a solution, in the sense that it really emotionally damages people. all the deconstruction and victim blaming. they tell you it's a disease, and you're powerless to stop it, and you have to get closer to god. but that's just a cult being a cult. it's like scientology. the secular programs focus on the idea of changing lifestyles, developing (non-religious) meaning, coming to terms with things. i mean, i can't say what will work and what won't. but if you're feeling constrained or whatever by the religious aspect there are other options...
mom
I am going to apply to places(anywhere) for a part-time job...Just want something very part-time...Don't really care where it is...Just to get me out of the house for a few hours a few days a week. I felt so much better about myself with the last little job I had.
Maybe, I could be the little old lady at the McDonald's counter serving breakfast a few mornings a week! lol
Jessica Amber Murray
yeah, i think that defining purpose is hugely important. what purpose is is another question. but i think the lack of purpose is a big factor.....
mom
Yes, for sure! I don't have that much of a problem with the religious aspect of it...I mean, I used to...But, I just call it my higher power...Which, could mean, anything...Just something bigger than myself...A feeling even. I just take what I need and leave the rest...I learned to do this many, many years ago...And, it did work for me way back then....It is just a place to relate to others suffering as I am, so as not to feel so lonely at times.
I did learn to be grateful in the rooms of AA...If, I remember all the things I have to be grateful for... I have a much better day!
Jessica Amber Murray
well, ok. i just wanted you to be aware that there are other programs that take other approaches. and i guess what i'm thinking is that you've relapsed a lot of times over the years, so maybe you might want to try something else. but if you're confident, it's a better idea for me to be supportive than to question.
mom
Thanks J! I just read about that implant thing....NO, it would not work for me at all! First of all, I do have hep.C, so no good...And, not liking the sound of it all anyways.
Jessica Amber Murray
that strikes me as pseudo-science, to begin with.
at
08:38
Location:
Windsor, ON, Canada
i'm sorry, but when i see waves of people standing up for personalized mail delivery, i interpret it as a lot of people that are fighting to uphold the status quo because they lack the vision to see beyond it and because they're used to the convenience it provides, at the expense of the freedom of workers.
you really can't get your own mail? you really require enslaving somebody to bring you your letters?
and your spam?
do you tip them when they arrive?
"it provides jobs!". ugh.
first, people that are arguing that obsolete industries should be maintained because they provide jobs are completely missing the entire point of socialism. there's no path to communism in maintaining humans in wage slavery jobs that can be done by machines or distributed equally across the population. that's some kind of wonky capitalist keynesianism designed to uphold the propertied classes, or something. communism is centered in the idea that monotonous, crappy work should be abolished either by mechanization or by distributing it equally amongst everybody.
second, what to say of these workers? "no, please, don't emancipate me from slavery!"...."as workers, we must unite to ensure our continued exploitation!". ugh. it would make me depressed if it didn't enrage me.
when you take a step back and see it from a distance, you realize it's reactionary. it's a conservative knee-jerking to uphold existing social relations. if i were to show up at the rallies, it would only be to ironically distribute pamphlets written by edmund burke. or perhaps jonathan swift...
you really can't get your own mail? you really require enslaving somebody to bring you your letters?
and your spam?
do you tip them when they arrive?
"it provides jobs!". ugh.
first, people that are arguing that obsolete industries should be maintained because they provide jobs are completely missing the entire point of socialism. there's no path to communism in maintaining humans in wage slavery jobs that can be done by machines or distributed equally across the population. that's some kind of wonky capitalist keynesianism designed to uphold the propertied classes, or something. communism is centered in the idea that monotonous, crappy work should be abolished either by mechanization or by distributing it equally amongst everybody.
second, what to say of these workers? "no, please, don't emancipate me from slavery!"...."as workers, we must unite to ensure our continued exploitation!". ugh. it would make me depressed if it didn't enrage me.
when you take a step back and see it from a distance, you realize it's reactionary. it's a conservative knee-jerking to uphold existing social relations. if i were to show up at the rallies, it would only be to ironically distribute pamphlets written by edmund burke. or perhaps jonathan swift...
at
05:02
Location:
Windsor, ON, Canada
yup. predictable.
that's not to say that there isn't legitimate dissent and anger and shit, but it's the same thing we've been seeing in russia for a while - it's being organized by western forces seeking to destabilize the area.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-struggle-for-ukraine-protests-made-in-germany-america-and-the-eu/5360501
that's not to say that there isn't legitimate dissent and anger and shit, but it's the same thing we've been seeing in russia for a while - it's being organized by western forces seeking to destabilize the area.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-struggle-for-ukraine-protests-made-in-germany-america-and-the-eu/5360501
at
03:39
Location:
Windsor, ON, Canada
i've been watching this come up for a few weeks and it's finally here: i now officially have more followers than friends! woo!
and that doesn't include the ~300 people i've deleted over the past few years, several of whom are apparently still getting updates...
and that doesn't include the ~300 people i've deleted over the past few years, several of whom are apparently still getting updates...
at
03:14
Location:
Windsor, ON, Canada
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