the left has completely lost the plot. strike action is supposed to be about finding ways to put leverage on the system. it's a way to meet power with power. this has been co-opted by religious nonsense and converted into a means to enforce the moral majority. power is supposed to understand that it's morally wrong and adjust. it's a message that is as air-headed as the people articulating it.
if they want to "stop production", the way to do that is to send moles into the police force and organize police strikes. it can be about pay to start, so long as the goal is eventually to get cops to reject their training in racial profiling. we need to collectively find ways to get cops to reject their command structure. that is the tactic that will be successful.
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Chris Healy
Get out of the road. Some people actually have jobs to go to.
jessica
fuck your job.
Atheistic Luciferian
Fuck you, welfare queen.
jessica
i'm sorry? get back to work, you fucking slave.
dingusmungus
Enjoy the disability checks leech...
neatpete
Hey disability is probably considered a raise for those on welfare. Hes going out for dinner tonight
jessica
i produce more of value on disability than you ever will in your wage/slave labour.
what have you ever created to justify your existence, besides profit for your owners?
so, again: fuck your job. go run around in circles in a field, instead. it's just as useful.
Sheryl Goolsbee
People's job's are paying the taxes so that people can live in subsidized/HUD housing, receive medicaid, bridge card benefits, pay for the better school's that all kid's can attend, WIC, abortion clinics, county run hospital's that are widely used by the indigent, family planning centers (birth control centers), methadone clinics, county psych services, etc. People work to pay for all of these services offered in most communities.
jessica
right. because government couldn't work without taxes. derp. have you ever considered the idea of abolishing money altogether?
The Daily Digest
People may be forced to contribute to a lot of socialist, government programs. None of which are Constitutional.
That is what we are trying to change.
jessica
in fact, i don't really support taxation. with the current system, i don't think you should pay taxes unless you're very wealthy - but that if you are very wealthy, you should pay almost all your income in taxes. so, somebody making $100,000/yr should really only have to pay consumption taxes. but, somebody making $10,000,000/yr should fork over 70%+ in taxes. and, the corporate tax rate should be over 50%. i'm perfectly happy with printing whatever else.
so, chances are pretty high that i don't think you should pay taxes at all.
but, in the long run, as an anarcho-communist, i would prefer to abolish the concept of exchange in favour of the concept of need.
The Daily Digest
That's one way to completely break the economic system. Punish the creators and business owners and you take away any incentive. Just do a mediocre job, and don't be too successful. Worked great for the Soviet Union, eh?
Taxing does one thing - enables a huge government to steal more and more. If you like where our system is now, then you must love big (criminal) government.
Punishing success does not, and never will, work. Too many collapsed governing systems, that include your communism.
You give over your power to a government that is sure to screw its people. I think I'll stick with working on Capitalism.
jessica
i'm not going to have this debate with you because we have to start from a more basic point than you're conceding. i don't agree with your definition of terms like "success", "creators" and "punish". if we were to have this debate, i would be constantly pulling the rug out from under you - much as i just did with that tax argument.
but, i don't think america comes across very well when compared economically to the soviet union. your levels of inequality are deplorable. the vast majority of americans live in abject poverty. you have third world child mortality levels. and, your policies have led to rapid deindustrialization. whatever you want to say about the soviet union, america is anything but an economic success story.
The Daily Digest
There really is no debate. Communism requires relying on a central power - whether it starts that way or ends up that way. Central powers are always corrupt. Socialism, Fascism, and Communism have historically been abysmal failures. I've lived through each and know this to be.
As these three systems make their way into a system based on Capitalism, they corrupt it and eventually it fails. An example is our system in the U.S. today. We started allowing Fascism to take over our system back in 1913 (really before) when our monetary system was signed over to the banking cartels. Fascism, historically, will fail. Same with Communism.
Our levels of inequality are based on each person's willingness to participate. The reason we have a third-world anything in this country, is because of government intervention and controls. These take away the right of each person to decide for themselves, and allows government, with all the inherent corruption, to make the rules.
Communism, Fascism, and Socialism are all bound to fail. Unfortunately Capitalism ends up being co opted by these corrupt systems.
jessica
you don't know what any of those words mean.
but, let me ask you this question: why do you think it's so important to let foreign interests manipulate the exchange rate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjLy71Y34r8