Friday, March 7, 2014

deathtokoalas
so, let me get this straight. this "protestor" (who looks a little too old to be a grad student) is reporting from university college in london in order to repeat what is essentially exactly the state department's precise thinking on the matter. convenient. can he prove he was even in ukraine at all? 'cause i have to say i'm skeptical.

interesting that this is a "roundtable". how far is that from all souls, anyways?

c'mon, guys. you're usually better than this.


Daniel Jones 
He pricesly said "I wouldnt exactly read too much in the call". Which is the CNN position and of course Obama's and Cameron's  - by default of not even acknowledging the existence of the call.

Sobakus
Even if we suppose you're right, this guy still represents a particular point of view, which is what this programme is about.

deathtokoalas
but, does he represent anybody on the ground, like he claims to?

the media has been presenting the debate as between opposition and government forces (as they were a few weeks ago), as though the then opposition assembled the protestors and consequently represents their interests. however, the then opposition really represents a faction of the ukrainian ruling elite that took advantage of the protest movement to seize power and is now pushing through unpopular reform packages from nato, the eu and the imf. it's looking more and more like a classic "shock doctrine" approach to taking advantage of a manufactured crisis. the people did not assemble to have imf austerity packages rammed through a rump parliament! they were concerned about the kind of corruption endemic to both mainstream parties.

could you imagine the media presenting occupy protestors as representing the interests of the democratic party?

there's been almost total media silence as to who the protestors actually are and what they actually want. this guy reporting from london and stating state department demands isn't helping clarify that distinction between the protestors and the elite, but muddying it.