i've pointed out before that these ancient demos, while very crude, also seemed to click into a few things - there's tracks that pre-date gybe! and seem to foreshadow it, tracks that sound like man man from as far back as 1997, tracks that are basically 90s emo without me having any idea what 90s emo was at the time, etc, etc...

i guess my head was in the same space as radiohead at the same time as radiohead, too.