jessica murray
think it through, guys. would a group opposed to a pipeline due to the
threat of spills decide to blow one up, thereby spilling oil everywhere?
does that make any sense? i've been involved with these groups, and let
me tell you that "highly disorganized and mostly on welfare" is the
actual truth of it. unfortunately, people end up drawn to activism after
they've failed at something else, and there's consequently a
substantial problem with a lack of education. under that, there's a core
of utopian socialists and quasi-anarchists that keep it running through
creative use of limited resources. the highly organized and
well-financed movement (with foreign backers) is the petroleum industry.
www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/rcmp-documents-warn-environmental-groups-could-pose-threat/45699/?ddlMonth=month&ddlYear=2016
MH
Sure, just like the FBI saying the same about Martin
Luther King and his fellow "communist" Civil Rights Workers, and the
RCMP planting evidence to claim Ludwig Weibo was planning to bomb
pipelines. These activists aren't "anti-Canada," they're anti-the oil
and gas companies who own Harper & the Tories and will stop at
nothing to increase their profits. It's Harper & his cronies who are
"anti-Canada"; they'll destroy the Canadian environment and sicken or
kill Canadians to make that profit.
jessica murray
if these groups had any money or structure, they'd
use it to lobby parliament, like every other well-funded group
(including the petroleum industry) does in our money-buys-influence
"democracy". street protests are always the behaviour of the
disenfranchised.
reality:
http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/the-top-lobby-groups-in-ottawa/
KW
The groups do have substantial funding. Vivian Krause has
documented the money trail at
http://business.financialpost.com/2010/10/14/u-s-foundations-against-the-oil-sands/
$6 Million is not chump change to fund protest groups. As for the risk
of terror activities, one only has to look at Daniel Johnson formerly on
the Green Party of Sask. executive as he demonstrates how to cause
train accidents through sabotaging of signal lights.
http://www.genuinewitty.com/2013/08/18/saskatchewan-green-party-executive-promotes-train-sabotage-feat-daniel-johnson/
jessica murray
keith, the kind of foundations you're talking about do exist,
but the purpose is largely to fund business opportunities in renewable
energy and whatnot. activists on the ground consider these groups to be
working against their interests in actually ending the fossil fuel
economy. the anti-pipeline groups i was involved with (who advocated
forms of civil disobedience like what was seen in new brunswick last
year) were actively campaigning against both the green party and the
ndp. that's part of the reason they're being targeted. so, the error is
in connecting these groups to the protest groups. these are two very
different things, with very different goals, and you can't conflate
them.
one of the dominant aims of the american military
establishment right now is in blocking petroleum exports to china. the
article that keith posted has a little bit about that. that's not
environmentalism, it's trade obstructionism. you can see some of this in
the ndp's line on the pipelines, as well. it's willing to support
pipelines that are connected to local refineries, and opposed to
pipelines that export oil to us refineries. that's not an
environmentalist position, it's a position meant to create union jobs.
the grassroots organizations pushing the visible protests mostly
understand all of this stuff, although they may get tricked sometimes.