well, it's unfortunate, but he's right. canada is a five eyes nation. collection and storage of data has been going on here for decades. the reason our parliament doesn't have any control over it is that our parliament doesn't have any control over it.

harper thought he could get a political bump from this, which is why the opposition to it was so necessary. but it was really just a question of legislating existing practices. and, this is really just a political miscalculation.

we'd have to get at some dramatic reforms that are well beyond repealing c-51 to begin to address the situation. and, i'd suggest it's not even possible to withdraw from these treaties, given the reality of the telecommunications networks.

my own opinion is that it is naive to expect to connect to the network and not be monitored.

https://openmedia.ca/blog/pressprogress-conservative-candidate-c-51-civil-liberties-folks-thats-not-country-we-live

Georgie Gagnon
Can you please explain why our parliament doesn't have any control over Bill C51 again?

deathtokoalas
that's not quite what i said.

a part of the criticism of c-51 is that there is no parliamentary oversight over csis. now, csis is not a new organization. you don't think that it's just something that never crossed parliament's mind, do you?

apparently, the australian secret service never bothered to tell the prime minister that they had signed the ukusa agreement until nearly 1980 - nearly forty years after it was signed.

there's certain aspects of our intelligence networks that operate at a joint military level in strong co-ordination and direction from our allies and are excluded from parliamentary oversight on purpose.