j reacts to the bipartisan demagoguery on mexicans (the deportation force is called ICE)

again: it's hard to see a reason to get involved in the immigration discussion when it's easy to see that they actually basically have the same policy of continuing to provide cheap slave labour to corporate interests while deporting those who escape the plantations, while distracting from the static policy with demagogic rhetoric designed to appeal to different bases.

so, trump uses this wacky right-wing rhetoric to appeal to the xenophobes that want insularity and purity, whereas clinton uses more inclusive rhetoric to appeal to multicultural liberals and the relatives of the migrants, themselves. you can decide which rhetoric you like better if you'd like. but, the rhetoric is designed in both cases to distract from the actual policy, which is basically the same.

trying to erect some kind of meaningful discussion when both sides are blatantly lying is entirely pointless. the discourse just has no connection to the reality.

....which is that the united states already has a deportation police force (called ice) and that neither of them will do anything besides continue the status quo put in place by the 'deporter in chief'.

so, yeah: i may like what clinton says better, but i don't expect that i'll like what she does.

i at least believe her when she says she wants to increase resources to the border. that means hiring more cops, building more detention facilities and hiring more judges. i don't doubt that she agrees that the system is overloaded. i don't doubt that she'll try and make it more efficient.