if you want to talk about aliens with me, you have to start with ejecting the idea that this is something paranormal or supernatural. to me, the whole basis of finding the idea of extra-terrestrial existence interesting is that it provides a naturalistic explanation for a large amount of history that we otherwise have to discard as utter nonsense.

if there are creatures born somewhere else in the universe, and they have evolved to live for hundreds or thousands of years, and they have managed to develop long-lived craft, and can even live and breed on them, then what, exactly, is paranormal or supernatural about that? it's entirely consistent with a darwinian concept of the natural universe.

and, again, that's the point, or at least it is to me; it helps me make sense of religion, in a way which i've never been able to otherwise get my head around.

it would be useful if we had a little more positive evidence. but, we may find out one day that all the evidence was right in front of us.