Saturday, July 23, 2016

Doug N
Carter caused huge inflation and unemployment. I agree with Bob that Republicans probably made a deal but I doubt Reagan was personally involved. After the huge inflation and unemployment Carter caused I'm glad the Republicans got him out.

deathtokoalas
the inflation was a consequence of the oil embargo. it had nothing to do with carter, except in the sense that he was an ally of israel. the person you should be blaming is henry kissinger.

rick0857
If that picture is your true picture YOU are not even OLD ENOUGH to know who jimmah Karter is, let alone comment on the history of the time. IF you know anything about it at all about that time, it was spoon fed to you by some MARXIST LEFTIST SCHOOL HOUSE/INDOCTRINATION CENTER with a definite leftward slant!

deathtokoalas
i actually don't have much of a rebuttal to this, other than to point out that the schools i've attended have been right-leaning, and i've sought marxist analyses on my own initiative.

what i'm presenting, though, is a very centrist keynesian/liberal analysis, and not a marxist one.

Martha Bartha
Proper names should be Capitalized.

deathtokoalas
but, i'm an anti-capitalist.

Martha Bartha
Oh OK. Is that a thing?

deathtokoalas
i don't know if it's a thing. i know i've been an anti-capitalist, alphabetical egalitarian and general grammar anti-authoritarian since the 90s. one could say it's a running gag, at least.

Doug N
What did Henry Kissinger have to do with it or being an ally of Israel? I guess you'd blame being an ally of Israel on the terrorist attacks too. Nothing to do with Islam and Arab oil producers.

deathtokoalas
assigning blame in complex situations is often foolhardy, and this is a good example of this. as i'm sure you know, however, the embargo was a consequence of us support for israeli policies. it does consequently follow that the architect of this us support shoulders a great deal of the responsibility for the embargo.

Doug N
You have a point about the reason not being Carter but I'll blame it on the ones who made it, the oil Muslims as there is nothing wrong with Israel being who and what it is.

deathtokoalas
you'll notice that i'm assigning the majority of the blame to kissinger, not to the israeli state. i will agree that you can't fault israel for aggressively pursuing it's self-interest.

Doug N
However you assign blame I don't see wrong in US policy with Israel. I see wrong with the Islamic countries unprovoked continuous actions of attempted genocide and smearing of Israel. I don't see Kissinger at fault for good policy that benefits both countries.

deathtokoalas
this is a moral argument, not a logical one. kissinger should have been able to see the consequences of his policies, and bears responsibility for them.

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