Friday, September 18, 2020

so, a few observations.

1) raspberries and strawberries have essentially the same anthocyanins. they're the same colour.

in fact, not only do kiwis dominate strawberries, but raspberries dominate strawberries, too.

according to wh foods,
http://www.worldshealthiestfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=39
http://www.worldshealthiestfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=32

it is the case that raspberries beat strawberries, gram-per-gram, on everything except vitamin c (where the strawberries clearly outperform, but lag behind the kiwis) and vitamin b9 (where the strawberries do marginally better than the raspberries). the raspberries have a bit more omega-6, but that seems to come almost unavoidably with the fat soluble vitamins.

so, if i want the red anthocyanins, whatever their value, i'm better off getting them from raspberries than strawberries.

the self page backs that comparison up, as well, although the number are different.

2) blackberries defeat blueberries, gram-per-gram, on everythingincluding flavonoids. well, blueberries may be a bit better on b1, b3 & b6, but, in the servings i'm talking about, it's the difference between 1% and 2% of the rdi, and i'd consider that a toss-up, relative to error. it's barely statistically noticeable. if you were eating a pound of blueberries at a time, it might be a different analysis. but, i have better sources of b vitamins than berries.

https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1848/2
https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1851/2

so, if i want the purple pigments, blackberries are the way to go.

3) blackberries & raspberries are largely interchangeable, with the difference being that blackberries have more than 5x the a, 30% more e, 20% more b9 and 2x the k, while raspberries have about 25% more c and statistically indiscernably higher amounts of b1 & b6.

it would seem like i should go all in on the blackberries, then.

...except that these numbers are sort of misleading, because they're all, in truth, so small. 5*epsilon = epsilon, and these 20-30% increases can be overturned by bad growers, or bad seasons. the difference in k is likely more substantive, but i don't need more k.

4) something i initially missed was black currants (and they have to be the black ones, apparently), which are comparable to blackberries in a & e, but have three times the c of strawberries. also worth noting is that cranberries are higher in e than most, although they are lower in a.

so, you could set up a chart:

ace
strawberries0very highx
gooseberriesvery lowmidx
blueberries0low2x
raspberries0mid3x
mulberries0high3x
blackcurrantsvery lowextremely high3.3x
cranberries0low4x
blackberriesvery lowmid4x
boysenberriesvery lowmid4.75x
lingonberriesvery lowlow5.3x
aronia berrieslowlow5.3x
salmonberrieslowvery low5.4x

so, if the primary focus is vitamin e because you're getting enough c anyways, that chart may be your guiding force, but the reality is that the differences are pretty minor, and when you work in a reasonable amount of error, it's not going to be clear that one is really better than the other. the truth is that none of them are able to give you more than 10% of anything, except c, and some of them can barely do that. so, i'm really reaching on the blackberries as a source of e, due to a deficit of good options.

what that means is that i'm not going to work the raspberries in right away after all, but wait until i've filled in more of the details. none of these fruits are capable of being the primary component of anything with clear nutritional value, at all.

that said, i've pulled a few other things out, and i'm going to repeat myself a little...

there are good answers, apparently. but, they're hard to find. it's the a and the e i'm most concerned about, but i'm about to sort of put it aside for later.

i need to make a lot of calls today, and i haven't eaten yet, and i very much need to.

this is all for 75 g of fruit, to match the strawberries and kiwis.

i'm never the trendy asshole. really. i came very close to getting that tattooed on me, when i was a kid. guess where? yeah. i made the right choice. but i need the a, and if gojis are accessible...

vitamin a
- goji berries - 135%. can i actually find these?
- rosehips - 65%. but, nobody sells them.
- cherries (red) - 20%. this is probably the most realistic choice.
- groundcherries - 10%. i think metro sells these, for real.

- salmonberries - 10%
- aronia berries - 5%
- blackcurrants < 5%
- blackberries < 5%
- boysonberries < 5%
- lingonberries < 5%
- gooseberries < 5%

vitamin b1
- goji berries - 7.5%
- groundcherries - 5%


vitamin b2
- goji berries - 56%
- rose hips - 7.5%


vitamin b3
- groundcherries - 10%
- rose hips - 5%


vitamin b5
- rose hips - 6%

vitamin b9
- boysenberries - 5%
- raspberries <5%
- blackberries <5%
- aronia berries <5%

vitamin e
- rose hips - 22%
- aronia berries - 7.5%
- lingonberries - 7.5%
- salmonberries - 7.5%
- boysenberries - 6%
- cranberries - 5%
- blackberries - 5%
- blackcurrants <5%
- raspberries <5%
- mulberries <5%