voxfox
Interesting to see even populist activists repeating the self-serving dross from the likes of the Fraser institute and other shills for the 1%. We need a firm commitment for a large (at least 25%) increase in taxes on the rich & their corporations from the NDP (the Liberals are just talkers).

therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14533

deathtokoalas
mulcair is backpedaling on the corporate tax rate this afternoon. the truth is that there's never been a left-wing ndp government elected anywhere, ever. they consistently end up further right than the liberals once they actually get in power.

more change in canadian politics happens through the court system than the political system. the three parties are almost exactly the same, with the liberals coming out furthest level on some social issues. activists need to focus on protests and legal challenges. the best message voters can send is low turnout. if we can get turnout to 30%, it might change the spectrum a little.

Scalito
How ignorant must you be to not know that the various NDP provincial governments have a better record of delivering balanced budgets than the Cons and Libs combined.

deathtokoalas
i'm quite aware that the ndp have a history of austerity budgets. that's why i'm saying you shouldn't vote for them - they will slash spending. there's never been a left-wing ndp government anywhere, ever. they've always been deeply conservative.

Scalito
"In truth there's never been a left-wing NDP government elected anywhere, ever"

Now, all of a sudden, you seem to be aware of the fact that there have been, but you have to equivocate. You're making a fool of yourself with your self-serving flip-flopping.

deathtokoalas
you seem to be having difficulty understanding what i typed. i think i was really quite clear. however, i will quote precisely what i typed and explain it in further detail so that it's entirely understood:

"the truth is that there's never been a left-wing ndp government elected anywhere, ever. they consistently end up further right than the liberals once they actually get in power."

now, if it were not for the second sentence, i could understand how you could possibly have thought i meant to say that the ndp have never been elected. this would in fact be a false statement. the ndp have formed several governments across the country in multiple provinces.

but, i think it's quite clear that that is not what i meant to say. i will repeat the second part:

"they consistently end up further right than the liberals once they actually get in power."

that's the important part. now, let's go over what i typed one last time:

"the truth is that there's never been a left-wing ndp government elected anywhere, ever. they consistently end up further right than the liberals once they actually get in power."

is it understood, now?

Scalito
Nice try, chucklehead. You never mentioned any thing about NDP provincial governments, until I called you on it. Your statement was unequivocal, but now you're backtracking as fast as you can. Piss off until you can tell the truth.

deathtokoalas
i don't even understand what you're misunderstanding anymore.

if an ndp government is elected, they will cut services and attack the unions under belt-tightening austerity arguments. that's what every ndp government that's ever been elected has done. expecting otherwise is delusional.