something else i need to point out about trump v hillary, though:

hillary looks frighteningly like my maternal grandmother [i haven't looked into it, but i promise you that hillary has finnish-irish ancestry]. trump looks a lot like my maternal grandfather, which is where my screen name of 'murray' originates from. they were divorced, i believe, before i was born. but, it's like the fight between my maternal grandparents that i never saw. making it sort of creepy.

my nana is far more liberal than hillary, though.

fwiw, i am basically the same age as chelsea. but, my grandmother is only a couple of years older than hillary.