it's not possible to have an opinion on a secret "trade document", although if this is like any of the other "trade documents" then it will have essentially nothing to do with trade - it will be a document that gives rights to investors, and cements various tariffs that benefit various investors. traditional conservative supporters will automatically support it, as they should - it's mercantilism. the ndp base will automatically hate it, as they have since before seattle - because they're opposed to transferring power from publicly accountable governments to unaccountable kangaroo court "tribunals". but everybody else has to actually READ IT FIRST before they can form an opinion. and, that's why this is potentially so explosive.

it's not going to be supply management parts of this that are going to upset people, it's going to be the parts on intellectual property rights, primarily. and, i speak for a lot of people when i argue that we should be negotiating our way out of chapter 11, not signing yet more chapter 11 type agreements.

the liberals are useless on trade; they talked a good talk in the 80s (in favour of trade, just not the agreement - which became the consensus alter-globaliza¬tion position) and then completely capitulated. that's one of the major reasons they lost so much support to the ndp amongst gen x and y people after 2000. then, as soon as the ndp end up in striking distance, they do the exact thing that all these people have been voting for them not to do.

wait for it. mulcair could still get past oct 19th unscathed on this. i don't think he'll get past jan 1 unscathed, unless he changes tactics.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/trade-is-voters-top-foreign-policy-concern-poll-suggests/article26556164/ 

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deathtokoalas
typical laughs fan in ottawa. you start talking trade, and they offer up russ courtnall for john kordic, then call people names when the nature of the deal is made public.