yeah, the first case they cited talks about somebody mailing something somewhere and concludes they should have taken greater steps to verify they had the right address. there's a series of cases cited afterwards where the idea that the applicant has to take steps to find the address is upheld, but all that actually provides any precedent for is the idea that i have to take initiative, which i've done.

it's a completely bullshit argument by a clearly stumped lawyer.

and, this is a lawyer i'm dealing with, now.

i would expect the tribunal to produce the order, at this point; there's no compelling reason presented by the police to not present this information to the tribunal, even though they obviously don't want to.

to be clear: i understand that i have the burden, here. but, i'm doing this; the lawyer is being disingenuous, and the tribunal should see through it.

how long do i get, though?

the liberals are supposed to do better than this.